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Episode #23: Julie Kratz – How Male Allies Support Women For Gender Equality

Episode #23: Julie Kratz

Julie Kratz is the founder of Pivot Point, a career and leadership coaching company that focuses on developing leaders using a gender equality lens.

Julie is a highly-acclaimed leadership trainer and coach who, after experiencing a few of her own career “pivot points,” developed a process for women leaders to build winning career game plans. She focuses her work on mid-career women because, in her words:

This is the time where we tend to get held up in our careers. It’s still the toughest life stage for many women as we may have young children, and are still responsible for much of the family, child care and household responsibilities.


Julie’s approach to presenting workshops and content for employees is an interesting one. Her focus is definitely on supporting women in attaining leadership positions, but she does this by also engaging male employees and showing them how to recognize the unconscious bias they might have against women in leadership positions, but also offering to women that we have some responsibility in the relationship.

In helping men to see the effective role they can play as allies to women, rather than bystanders to their unequal treatment, we can create more collaborative teams that benefit from both male and female energy and the strengths both genders bring to the table. 

What we’ve traditionally done is make women solve women’s problems. But guess what? When women try to do that, society doesn’t like it. We call women who negotiate or stand up for  themselves bossy, for instance. What I argue for are four key ways  women can own their power:

1. Be direct in how you communicate with men
2. Own you story – where you’ve been, where you are and where you’re going
3. Speak up for what you want
4. Think about how to enlist allies at home and at work, to reduce the family care burden on women. 

Julie’s approach earns her kudos from men for allowing them to examine these problems without feeling ambushed, and from women for providing the platform for conversations they didn’t think they could have.




Julie holds an MBA from the Kelley School of Business at Indiana University, is a Certified Master Coach, and is a certified unconscious bias trainer. Her books include Pivot Point: How to Build a Winning Career Game Plan and ONE: How Male Allies Support Women for Gender Equality.


What you’ll learn from Julie in this episode:

  • Why she believes corporate America has a huge opportunity right now to engage and retain top talent, and especially women
  • What the role of male allies in the workplace is and isn’t
  • How the corporate world can benefit from the combination of male and female energy when both are present in leadership
  • Examples of a few companies doing gender equality initiatives well and what we can learn from them
  • Why it takes a special kind of vulnerability for men to admit their complicity in this problem and what’s required to engage them in the solutions
  • Who she wrote ONE: How Male Allies Support Women for Gender Equality for and what the response has been
  • Julie’s take on ambition as a gendered term and what we should do to fix that for women


Julie is ambitious for:

Lauren Moffatt, founder of


Links to organizations/articles/books mentioned in this episode:

Pivot Point, and the Pivot Point Podcast

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